Nightgames wrote:
I must be as naive as you then, because thinking because your 4-H must have been slum, they all are.


no , I have clearly said that 4-H can be good , but it isnt really a selling point to the majority. Just because you can make it in 4-H doesnt mean your horse is top notch.
I know 4-H is big in some areas.
But for the vast majority of places it isnt.

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