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Feb 7 11 7:35 AM
AutumnEffect wrote:forthefutureofthebreed wrote:AutumnEffect wrote:forthefutureofthebreed wrote:I wasn't necessarily referring to this thread, and no, I'm not confusing you with anyone else. You and I have a bit of history on this forum, don't we? I don't forget people who have criticized and attacked me or my breeding program easily. Yes, I don't like your stallion. Considering I don't even travel in the circles you do, or have intention of ever traveling in those circles, I am not sure why my dislike of your stallion is such a big deal. Anytime you make anything public, there will be people who don't like it. I'm sure there are people on this board who don't like my mules, and that is fine by me. All that matters to me is that I like my mules. You may have a lot of experience with mules for your age, and you may have more experience with them than most on this board, but I can guarantee you that you have not experienced a lot of things that can and will happen during your time and experience with mules. I can guarantee the the same thing. I never said otherwise. Just because I don't plan on owning very many mules, does not mean that I will not experience things I haven't already. Even with my younger mule, I plan on doing and trying things I never did with the older one. They are no different than horses in that respect. You haven't lived long enough yet. If you were 60, and successfully owned and trained mules all of your life, then you would be the 'go-to' person for me if I wanted to know about all things mules. At age 23, I'm sorry, but you wouldn't be that person, regardless of your experience so far. You haven't earned that privilege, yet. I'm sorry if that rubs you the wrong way. It is not meant to. In other words, you would sooner take mule advice from a 60 year old person who had been in horses their whole life and only mule experience was a trail ride into the Grand Canyon, than me. They do have more overall experience and they are older than me so therefore they must know more. I get what you are saying about time and experience and all that, I just don't see how you can discount the experience I do have so quickly. That's all. I am not arguing about how one gets experience. Your dislike of my horse doesn't mean a thing to me. Your unqualified criticism is another matter. Again, quantity (mules or horses) doesn't mean a thing, either. It helps, but not sure why you keep bringing that up.Regarding the 60 year old person - I think you missed part of what I said. I said mules, not horses. Mules. Please read my comments again. What do you think is the difference between dislike and unqualified criticism? Can you give me examples of hypothetical comment you could consider dislike and one you would consider unqualified criticism? Or does it depend strictly on the source of the comments?It has nothing to do with the source of the comments. An example of dislike would be, "I don't like the color of that horse", or "I don't like a horse that is put together that way."An example of an unqualified opinion would be someone who is 17, lives on the east coast, is on their first horse that they keep at a hunter/jumper boarding barn, they ride English exclusively, who is criticizing the breeding quality of a western Paint stock horse.The other poster brought up sheer numbers as being necessary for experience/part of gaining experience and you agreed.I agreed that sheer numbers can be one advantage of gaining experience, yes.Again, I get what you are saying about time and experience and all that, I just don't see how you can discount the experience I do have so quickly. That's all. I am not arguing about how one gets experience.I never discounted your experience, for your age. I said it doesn't equal that of a 60 year old with a lifetime of handling mules. That has everything to do with age = experience. I said I would go to the 60 year old for all things mule before I sought your knowledge and experience at your age about all things mule. That is not discounting your experience at all. You can only do so much by the age of 23, and that is something you have no control over.
forthefutureofthebreed wrote:AutumnEffect wrote:forthefutureofthebreed wrote:I wasn't necessarily referring to this thread, and no, I'm not confusing you with anyone else. You and I have a bit of history on this forum, don't we? I don't forget people who have criticized and attacked me or my breeding program easily. Yes, I don't like your stallion. Considering I don't even travel in the circles you do, or have intention of ever traveling in those circles, I am not sure why my dislike of your stallion is such a big deal. Anytime you make anything public, there will be people who don't like it. I'm sure there are people on this board who don't like my mules, and that is fine by me. All that matters to me is that I like my mules. You may have a lot of experience with mules for your age, and you may have more experience with them than most on this board, but I can guarantee you that you have not experienced a lot of things that can and will happen during your time and experience with mules. I can guarantee the the same thing. I never said otherwise. Just because I don't plan on owning very many mules, does not mean that I will not experience things I haven't already. Even with my younger mule, I plan on doing and trying things I never did with the older one. They are no different than horses in that respect. You haven't lived long enough yet. If you were 60, and successfully owned and trained mules all of your life, then you would be the 'go-to' person for me if I wanted to know about all things mules. At age 23, I'm sorry, but you wouldn't be that person, regardless of your experience so far. You haven't earned that privilege, yet. I'm sorry if that rubs you the wrong way. It is not meant to. In other words, you would sooner take mule advice from a 60 year old person who had been in horses their whole life and only mule experience was a trail ride into the Grand Canyon, than me. They do have more overall experience and they are older than me so therefore they must know more. I get what you are saying about time and experience and all that, I just don't see how you can discount the experience I do have so quickly. That's all. I am not arguing about how one gets experience. Your dislike of my horse doesn't mean a thing to me. Your unqualified criticism is another matter. Again, quantity (mules or horses) doesn't mean a thing, either. It helps, but not sure why you keep bringing that up.Regarding the 60 year old person - I think you missed part of what I said. I said mules, not horses. Mules. Please read my comments again.
AutumnEffect wrote:forthefutureofthebreed wrote:I wasn't necessarily referring to this thread, and no, I'm not confusing you with anyone else. You and I have a bit of history on this forum, don't we? I don't forget people who have criticized and attacked me or my breeding program easily. Yes, I don't like your stallion. Considering I don't even travel in the circles you do, or have intention of ever traveling in those circles, I am not sure why my dislike of your stallion is such a big deal. Anytime you make anything public, there will be people who don't like it. I'm sure there are people on this board who don't like my mules, and that is fine by me. All that matters to me is that I like my mules. You may have a lot of experience with mules for your age, and you may have more experience with them than most on this board, but I can guarantee you that you have not experienced a lot of things that can and will happen during your time and experience with mules. I can guarantee the the same thing. I never said otherwise. Just because I don't plan on owning very many mules, does not mean that I will not experience things I haven't already. Even with my younger mule, I plan on doing and trying things I never did with the older one. They are no different than horses in that respect. You haven't lived long enough yet. If you were 60, and successfully owned and trained mules all of your life, then you would be the 'go-to' person for me if I wanted to know about all things mules. At age 23, I'm sorry, but you wouldn't be that person, regardless of your experience so far. You haven't earned that privilege, yet. I'm sorry if that rubs you the wrong way. It is not meant to. In other words, you would sooner take mule advice from a 60 year old person who had been in horses their whole life and only mule experience was a trail ride into the Grand Canyon, than me. They do have more overall experience and they are older than me so therefore they must know more. I get what you are saying about time and experience and all that, I just don't see how you can discount the experience I do have so quickly. That's all. I am not arguing about how one gets experience.
forthefutureofthebreed wrote:I wasn't necessarily referring to this thread, and no, I'm not confusing you with anyone else. You and I have a bit of history on this forum, don't we? I don't forget people who have criticized and attacked me or my breeding program easily. Yes, I don't like your stallion. Considering I don't even travel in the circles you do, or have intention of ever traveling in those circles, I am not sure why my dislike of your stallion is such a big deal. Anytime you make anything public, there will be people who don't like it. I'm sure there are people on this board who don't like my mules, and that is fine by me. All that matters to me is that I like my mules. You may have a lot of experience with mules for your age, and you may have more experience with them than most on this board, but I can guarantee you that you have not experienced a lot of things that can and will happen during your time and experience with mules. I can guarantee the the same thing. I never said otherwise. Just because I don't plan on owning very many mules, does not mean that I will not experience things I haven't already. Even with my younger mule, I plan on doing and trying things I never did with the older one. They are no different than horses in that respect. You haven't lived long enough yet. If you were 60, and successfully owned and trained mules all of your life, then you would be the 'go-to' person for me if I wanted to know about all things mules. At age 23, I'm sorry, but you wouldn't be that person, regardless of your experience so far. You haven't earned that privilege, yet. I'm sorry if that rubs you the wrong way. It is not meant to. In other words, you would sooner take mule advice from a 60 year old person who had been in horses their whole life and only mule experience was a trail ride into the Grand Canyon, than me. They do have more overall experience and they are older than me so therefore they must know more. I get what you are saying about time and experience and all that, I just don't see how you can discount the experience I do have so quickly. That's all. I am not arguing about how one gets experience.
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