Callisto04 wrote:

or one might adopt another, more cynical view about some observers, 'Australian bird watchers are incompetent'.

  
And we can now officially say this thread has gone to the birds.
Are Australian bird watchers incompetent?

goflipper said:
Just come back in a few years and show what you've produced and what it's done.
Until then no one knows shit, and it's just Backyard Breeders Gone Wild. The proof is in the results.

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ReinerMom wrote: 
If in your mind you are doing the right thing who cares what anyone wants to debate?