Our lowet line is about 18-24 ft from the ground & the highest is about 5 ft.  We have 4 lines.....top & 2nd from bottom is electric.  IN retrospect, we would have either made the bottom line hot too or made it lower.  The deer love to belly crawl right under the fence line


The area where our round pen is can stay very wet so we had to consider drainage & footing.  We put down 24 ton of small driveawy stone down first (60 ft round pen) & then put 24 ton of crushed stone over top of that.  It stays pretty dry now.


As for the birds.....