I'm kind of with Elite. Trust me, I completely understand why breeders want to avoid young people and young couples .... BUT....

I think they should at least be willing to hear you out. People like myself and Elite and Selah etc are completely dedicated to our dogs and I'd pick my dogs over anyone, even boy who I love more than I can even begin to say.

If a breeder isn't willing to hear you out, then they're too closed minded and you probably don't want to deal with them anyway. If they won't lighten up about that, what other expectations will they have you might not agree with?

On the topic of Mooseknuckles:
Valo wrote:
I totes googled it. While on campus in a public space surrounded by students.

Balls. I haz them.
Timid Wild One wrote:
^Balls. You saw them.