CindyECC wrote:
ddranch wrote:
AppyButt wrote:
Many of the things we do as adults are our own choices, good or bad, for better or worse. 
You got it!

Now try to convince anyone else.

Good luck.

So, DDR, how do you feel about all the other "personal choices" that people should/could have?  Do you wear your seat belt?  Wear a helmet on a motorcycle?  Use drugs?   Drink excessively? 

Ideally, I would say that we should all have COMPLETE personal freedom and choices.  As in, if you want to do drugs, fine.  I don't care...as long as you keep it in your own home and don't impact me or mine in any way...as in, not drinking and driving, or using public assistance because you stay so shit-faced that you can't work.  This applies to religion (I don't care if you worship a shoe as long as you don't try to put it on me and mine), sexuality (as long as it's with other consenting adults and again), and anything else. 

But as soon as YOUR decisions start impacting my life, then yes, I do have some sort of say in what you do or don't do because again, we're living in the same society.
ddranch wrote:
I would also agree to this if you could get unwed mothers and obese people from driving up health care cost.
So because we can't get all obese people to lose weight or stop all unmarried girls from getting pregnant, then we should ignore the things we can control?   What about smokers?  What about those "skinny" people who don't exercise and eat horrible foods so they have heart attacks at an early age?

Again, it can't be an "all or nothing" situation.  We can't take away all personal rights for the good of society.  But there ARE compromises that can be made and I honestly don't see how wearing a helmet in certain situations is such a hardship.

The first half makes a lot of sense but the second half is just baseless ranting but I want you to know that I am here for you.