WhoKilledBambi wrote:
I've had a toller (small side of medium dog) climb a NINE FOOT FENCE to get at a bitch in heat.

This is believable , six foot fence sounds more likely to be honest , cause who has nine foot fences in their backyard?

My grandmother had a bitch break through a leather lead to get at a stray intact male she wanted as a baby-daddy. Only time we've ever had an oops litter. Sometimes, shit happens.

This is a bit of a stretch to believe , and by a bit , I mean a lot. Had there actually been concern about the oops litter and the over population , the dog would of been spayed immediately to prevent the oops litter.

I can't believe there are STILL fishies who have intact dogs that are not good quality breeding stock. FFS fix your damn dogs people.

Because early spaying and neutering isn't everything its made out to be. The statistics are all extremely flawed , and in the case of large breeds down right damaging to their health.
It is more then possible to have intact dogs that never have a health issue , and never are bred.



"Blessed are the flexible for they shall not get bent out of shape"
"You can discipline and Discourage or you can Discipline and Encourage"
"Gentle in what you do , But firm in how you do it"