Gold wrote:
A little OT - but so often the 2 are tyed together is the whole "organic" faze.

The carbon footprint of an organic field is twice that of a non-organic field.   So you save an animal, but kill the entire planet with the diesel used to produce your product?

My son spent 3 years working on a commercial organic farm raising blue corn for chips - The number of times he drove a tractor around that field was astonishing -

Also the crop coming off of there was really kind of disgusting, the bugs, and the weed seeds made a really unappetizing looking raw product.   (the chips were good though!)






" We are all lone souls. It pays to know humility, lest the delusion of control, of mastery, overwhelms. And, indeed, we seem a species prone to that delusion, again and ever again. "

"...But nothin' ever came
From a life that was a simple one."

" You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake.  You are the same decaying organic matter as everyone else, and we are all part of the same compost pile. "