I haven't read the whole thread yet ,did we cover if your horse is misbehaving under saddle it's because the saddle doesn't fit right or it needs a chiropractic adjustment or it needs a stronger bit, or said horse is an untrainable outlaw ,on no account could it be the riding habits of anyone on this board!

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