the "poor me" thing just doesn't play well....nor does the ulterior motives....

Cross doesn't appear to come over here b/c she doesn't like to be looked down upon because her spelling and grammer aren't up to snuff, you've already all jumped all over her stock at every opportunity, maybe she doesn't care to have you repeat the favor on her.... If you had actually READ her comments over there, you might find that she has some really good knowledge and a nice, well thought out breeding plan. Just b/c your FAMILY ranches, doesn't mean that their version of ranch work equals the next family, or that the caliber of horse you/they are willing to live with is enough for the next person. There is a post over there somewhere with one of their horses and her husband dragging around a big ole ton bull- I'll look forward to you posting a similar one if you can dig one up.....(doubtful).

As far as pure motives, let the glass housed dweller throw the first stone....FTF is here to have her ego stroked and the rest of you just want a pat on the head and a moment to feel superior.... Hope you enjoy it.