Thank you WM and TC. I was pulling a pedigree 10 gens back on a horse that isn't bred fantastic. I was surprised to see Joe Reed 21 times(12 top/9 bottom) in 10 generations. That being said, I pulled it from allbreed so that means there is a likelyhood that what I pulled is not correct. Made me start wondering about the influence. It was a boring day at work, LOL!