hahahaha, NOPE! You know how hard it is to find a real nice calm, quiet, reliable horse here in Idaho? Most of the time we have been lied too (Gus) but we lucked out with Scooter. They were very honest and we got to go take him for a ride up in the mountains on Tuesday. He is what both hubby and I have been looking to get for far too long. We also, didn't need to get a PPE because a the owner had one done not too long ago for a potential buyer, woohoo!