barrelracer89 wrote:
xxthephoenix89xx wrote:
"I pledge allegiance to the flag, of the United States of America. And to the republic, for which it stands. One nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

^Pride and honor and loyalty to a country.

"Mmmmm-mmm Obama"

^Pride and loyalty to a human. Leaders are not people I would consider myself loyal to, simply because if they start acting stupid, I want them OUT of power. Loyalty is NOT a good thing when it applies to ONE person's ideas. Anyone can have a dumb idea, and as a responsible nation, we are to point out and protest those ideas, not be loyal to them because 'our great leader said it so it's true.'

Another thing, I think that it should be required that kids at least stand in respect to the pledge. You don't want to recite it? Fine. But you need to respect your country, its history, and what it stands for. If you disagree with everything about it and you hate it that much... go somewhere else.

Agreed. Or be proactive and try to change what you honestly think is wrong. That's why we have the Constitution, and that's why the Constitution can be amended.
Again. What if you don't believe in states. And you are (like me) actively involved in groups to further your ideology?
You still have a right to sit down. I think as long as you're not disrupting the class (and this does not include your teacher having a fit about you sitting), then it shouldn't be an issue. I get taken to church every now and then, and I don't kneel, stand or bow my head to pray. I don't disrupt anyone. No one cares. How is this any different?


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