Yes Hyena, in St Louis, Missouri that was how last week was - like mid November. This week is going to be 70 on Tues or Wed, but last week and the week before (which was when mine was in for 3 days) was just plain cold, gray rain for 3 days and there was talk of some of that rain maybe freezing, but it did not. Made for a cold Saturday nite/Sun morning at the barn.