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Apr 4 08 1:10 PM
vixen of doom wrote:
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Apr 4 08 1:11 PM
Life's tough, it's even tougher if you're stupid. - John Wayne
You can't argue with stupid!
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Apr 4 08 1:13 PM
Only recently have people acquired this mindset that the TB is no longer needed. And look what we have now...
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Apr 4 08 1:15 PM
forthefutureofthebreed wrote: TC, I know exactly how QH and TB races are timed and from where. I have known that since I had a horse at the track in 1975. That's totally beside the point I have tried to make all along, and your post tells me you have missed it all.
Apr 4 08 1:22 PM
ThreeCorners wrote: See N Spots, even I saw you make the connection between a western pleasure horse, and a human doing ballet.
Well what is that old froidien slip thingy????? Maybe I did. But that is kind of what WP/HUS is. The object is to look graceful, well trained, and pleasureable.
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Apr 4 08 1:28 PM
See N Spots wrote: vixen of doom wrote: GMAFB, I never said a quarter horse type is better. No, but every example I've seen you pointing to as being a 'good app' is a spotted Quarter Horse. Every time I bring up that I don't like Quarter Horse-type Appys you seem to assume non-Quarterloosa = badly conformed foundation fugly. I am not a TB person, I can't get on here and tell you anything about what a TB should or should not look like. Same thing with arabs, standardbreds, morgans, rocky mountain horses and so on. I know quarters and apps and I have never proclaimed to know anything different. If I need to give someone and example of what I believe is a good looking horse, then I am going to dive into my pool of knowledge and pick one from there. That does not however, mean that if your warmblood doesn't look exactly like my quarterhorse that I will think he is lacking somewhere. This has become a discussion between you and I based on your not liking app crosses. Are you been reading the same conversation as I have? This has been a conversation where I have been talking about how Turning Appaloosas into Quarter Horses is something I disagree with and that you very much like Quarter Horse type Apps. I have said time and time again I LIKE THE IDEA OF USING OTHER BREEDS TO IMPROVE APPALOOSAS, BUT I HATE THAT THEY'RE BEING TURNED INTO SPOTTED QUARTER HORSES Seriously. I've given examples of Appaloosa SPORT Horses that I think have good Appaloosa type, Hell, I KNOW for a fact that at LEAST 2 of my examples for Appy type that I like aren't more than 1/2 Appaloosa. I LIKE APPALOOSA CROSSES used to improve and refine the breed. I just don't like people trying their hardest to erase Appaloosa type. They're I just said the same thing over and over again, do you understand yet? vixen of doom wrote: How many times do I have to say, I HAVE NEVER poopood adding different blood into apps. I have said over and over again that it is not about how much actual appy blood a horse really has, it is about the conformation, and type. This next quote doesn't sound to me like you don't care how much appy blood a horse has..... vixen of doom wrote: An Appaloosa that's built like an Appy (not a QH) is probably going to be better suited to other things than Quarter Horses, because they aren't put together the same. The ApHC has done a terrible job of re-establishing that Appaloosa type. From the looks of it, they've done nothing but encourage the Appaloosa to change from a distinct breed into nothing but a new color pattern for Quarter Horse lovers to play with. And that is just sad. I just said the same thing in the above quote that I've been saying this entire time. "I LIKE THE IDEA OF USING OTHER BREEDS TO IMPROVE APPALOOSAS, BUT I HATE THAT THEY'RE BEING TURNED INTO SPOTTED QUARTER HORSES" and here is another... vixen of doom wrote: You can't seriously be telling me it's a good thing to breed OUT the toughness and endurance of a breed and instead push towards slow, family-oriented breeding? I don't think it's ever been proven that a horse capable of working high-stress/high-endurance jobs are going to be any less capable to walk around a ring than one that isn't capable of doing those high-stress/high-endurance jobs. Though I do agree in working to keep them marketable, I like the idea of using outside blood to improve on them and add a little more 'pretty' into Appy lines. Where in that quote does it say I don't like the idea of improving Appys, or that I'm obsessed with using foundation blood? I even bolded out the section where I said, "Though I do agree in working to keep them marketable, I like the idea of using outside blood to improve on them and add a little more 'pretty' into Appy lines."
Apr 4 08 1:29 PM
forthefutureofthebreed wrote: If one were to compare a horse event to ballet, I would have to say it would have to be dressage.
Yea, you are right. Have you seen the Merlin video?
Apr 4 08 1:31 PM
vixen of doom Well maybe you would prefer they look like spotted thoroughbreds? Or maybe spotted percheron's? Maybe you should answer the question Appaloosa's should look like spotted (fill in the blank)_________________?
Apr 4 08 1:33 PM
See N Spots wrote: vixen of doom Well maybe you would prefer they look like spotted thoroughbreds? Or maybe spotted percheron's? Maybe you should answer the question Appaloosa's should look like spotted (fill in the blank)_________________?
Apr 4 08 1:35 PM
Apr 4 08 1:36 PM
vixen of doom wrote: I think Appaloosas should look like Appaloosas, regardless of spots. Which is exactly what I have said, over and over and over and over again. That doesn't give me a picture in my head of what your ideal appaloosa is? Please post a pic and remember - don't let it resemble any other existing breed.. LOL
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Apr 4 08 1:38 PM
WMerrickwannabe wrote: Tell It Like It Is said, Ummmm... actually they were working horses that the cowboys used and then raced for fun when they went to town. They got their name for their ability to run a quarter mile... but they were working horses first an foremost......... You really do need to do more research on the Quarter Horse origins. The Quarter Horse was a race horse first and they (the race horses) were taken west as the settlers moved west and then used for everything including general ranch work with race on the weekends.
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Tell It Like It Is wrote: I did the research.. thanks! Clear back to the 1600's. I think to be rational and objective, we should only go back to the actual AQHA beginnings - otherwise we could go all the way back to the garden of eden and ask our good lord his original intentions for the equine.
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