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Apr 4 08 8:08 AM
forthefutureofthebreed wrote: Hell, if you can't make any money doing what you're doing, might as well do something worthwhile, like breeding for the future of the breed.
Sounds like pretty much every BYB ever featured on this site...
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Apr 4 08 8:12 AM
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Nope, never said that. You better go back and reread the posts. You interpreted it that way. I said they compete in NCHA and NRHA because that is where the money is - not because of the size of the horse. They are spending the high breeding fees to compete for points? I don't think so.
What I am insinuating however is that if you are competing in a venue that doesn't require your horse to be registered and/or qualify for registration and adhere to registration rules, then you as a breeder will not have to keep in mind that your crop must be eligible for registration.
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Apr 4 08 8:14 AM
Apr 4 08 8:16 AM
GotCow wrote: You know cowhorses have it too hard to get an AQHA Championship these days because of the standards the judges use. Even the cowhorses with good conformation can't do much when standing next to a bunch 16 hand 1500 pound pasture ornaments. On the other hand, many of those clumsy hippopotamus can get points in rail classes. You're ignorance and prejudice just keeps shinin on through gotcow. Got to hand it to you, you are set in your ways. You don't know what you are missing by not being able to appreciate the beauty that each discipline can have.
Apr 4 08 8:19 AM
You're ignorance and prejudice just keeps shinin on through gotcow. Got to hand it to you, you are set in your ways. You don't know what you are missing by not being able to appreciate the beauty that each discipline can have.
Apr 4 08 8:22 AM
GotCow wrote: THAT'S COMPLETELY FALSE!!! All horses by and out of AQHA registered horses that adhere to the color rules are eligible to registration. All Quarter Horses that compete in NCHA events are in fact registered, there's no reason not to. Same with NRHA and NRCHA. I'm sorry to burst your bubble gotcow but it is the truth. I know first hand. Like I said, I lived in Texas for many many years and had upclose and personal relationships with people affiliated with BR and they are producing some horses that are not being registered. It's not all of them, but there are some. And as for the "there's no reason not to" actually, there is no reason to register them.
Apr 4 08 8:26 AM
Apr 4 08 8:28 AM
All horses by and out of AQHA registered horses that adhere to the color rules are eligible to registration.
Apr 4 08 8:30 AM
GotCow wrote: instead of calling me ignorant, could you please prove this statement wrong?: "ven the cowhorses with good conformation can't do much when standing next to a bunch 16 hand 1500 pound pasture ornaments. On the other hand, many of those clumsy hippopotamus can get points in rail classes." Well I guess I must get technical with you since common sense is a foreign term to you..... 1. A pasture ornament (though not a true dictionary term I don't think) is generally an animal that has no use and is kept on a person's property merely for the enjoyment of looking out and seeing it standing there in the pasture and hence making the pasture more appealing. Halter horses, hunter under saddle horses, western pleasure horses, driving horses, etc. do actually have a function (though you obviously don't like that fact) so therefor do not qualify as "pasture ornaments". 2. A clumsy hippopotamus is an animal far from the equine species and therefor needs no another discription. As to proving your statement is wrong..............I don't really think I even need to waste my time by typing anything else in this post.
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Apr 4 08 8:33 AM
GotCow wrote: And the Appaloosas are inferior to Quarter Horses at stock disciplines, that's a fact. Just look at the most important NCHA, NRHA events or even the PRCA and tell me how many appys have made a mark. Other than Ima Doc Olena (and that's a 1979 horse) there isn't an appy that can be called an outstanding cowhorse. That's probably because the first century or so of Appy breeding had absolutely nothing to do with cows. As far as De Renzo, I seriously hope that awkwardness he has is something he'll grow out of when he gets older, and since he's a yearling (in that photo at least) there's a good chance he could look nice as an adult. I'd really like to see what he looks like when he's not halter fit though, I think I'd like him a lot better then.
And the Appaloosas are inferior to Quarter Horses at stock disciplines, that's a fact. Just look at the most important NCHA, NRHA events or even the PRCA and tell me how many appys have made a mark. Other than Ima Doc Olena (and that's a 1979 horse) there isn't an appy that can be called an outstanding cowhorse.
Apr 4 08 8:37 AM
GotCow wrote: BUT, you can't use any of those activities as a measure for a horse's athletic ability. That's like saying only football players are athletes. Give me a break.
Apr 4 08 8:41 AM
GotCow wrote: Many of your top cutting horses don't reach 14h. They're getting smaller and smaller, in case you haven't noticed. Ok, so take a look at the top 10 all time cutting stallions and please name one 13 hand horse other than Smart Little Lena. The height requirement for registration used to be 14.2. Anything under that was registered as a quarter pony.
Many of your top cutting horses don't reach 14h. They're getting smaller and smaller, in case you haven't noticed. Ok, so take a look at the top 10 all time cutting stallions and please name one 13 hand horse other than Smart Little Lena. The height requirement for registration used to be 14.2. Anything under that was registered as a quarter pony.
The Quarter Pony is a small scale replica of a Quarter Horse. Unlike the Quarter Horse, it may come in any color, or combination of colors. The Quarter pony has been around for many years, deriving from Quarter Horses not reaching the AQHA's minimum (14.2h) height requirement of the early years. Even though the AQHA's height requirement was later phased out, the quarter pony continued.
Apr 4 08 8:44 AM
Well I guess I must get technical with you since common sense is a foreign term to you..... 1. A pasture ornament (though not a true dictionary term I don't think) is generally an animal that has no use and is kept on a person's property merely for the enjoyment of looking out and seeing it standing there in the pasture and hence making the pasture more appealing. Halter horses, hunter under saddle horses, western pleasure horses, driving horses, etc. do actually have a function (though you obviously don't like that fact) so therefor do not qualify as "pasture ornaments". 2. A clumsy hippopotamus is an animal far from the equine species and therefor needs no another discription. As to proving your statement is wrong..............I don't really think I even need to waste my time by typing anything else in this post.
Apr 4 08 8:46 AM
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Apr 4 08 8:52 AM
forthefutureofthebreed wrote: "Oh, come on FTFOTB, that's BS and you know it." It's not BS when I cannot find a QH stallion with the qualities I require for my breeding program. They're all so specialized that they've lost what the QH was to begin with.
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