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BigDreams wrote: I am so never getting married. I've never really liked babysitting.
4Horses and Holding wrote: You know, with sperm banks and handy-dandy machinery, there really isn't much use for men. I mean, most cats will kill bugs.
aakora wrote: I think most problems in life can be traced to an incorrect ratio of men to cats.
May 29 09 6:50 AM
myfurrypanda wrote: But I wouldn't have felt bad about declawing her if she had been destroying the furniture - better than living out on farm where she was born, where cats generally get hit by cars or eaten by coyotes before they get too old.
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Kwayera wrote: myfurrypanda wrote: But I wouldn't have felt bad about declawing her if she had been destroying the furniture - better than living out on farm where she was born, where cats generally get hit by cars or eaten by coyotes before they get too old. Better to be mutilated and in pain than dead, right?
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Kwayera wrote: It just means that they use a laser instead of a scalpel. No, it's not any less cruel, and I woudn't patronise a vet who seemed so proud of it.
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Kwayera wrote: Dewclaws are barely attached to the foot, and certainly not with joint, cartilage and bone. When you declaw your cat, you cut off its fingertips, sever the nerves, and prevent the cat from accomplishing normal and required psychological behaviours (grooming, scratching, etc). There can never be any moral justification for that - "oh, it was a kitten and it was scratching my furniture!" Yeah well, that's what kittens DO. It's called training.
May 29 09 8:19 AM
myfurrypanda wrote: My declawed cat was able to groom himself just fine, and he went through the motions of scratching. He was not in pain, aggressive, or mentally unstable. He was declawed when he was quite young, and adjusted just fine. All 4 of his brothers and sisters AND his mother died within 2 years after he was born (poison from neighboring farms or getting hit by cars). He lived until he was 15, and was quite happy. Declawing a cat is not the end of the world. You can't compare the end of a cat's toes to a human's fingertips - a cat does not think of the end of his toes the way we think of our fingertips. Sure, I wouldn't give up my fingertips to have nice furniture... but maybe my toes (assuming there would be no visible scarring i.e. if I had fur). That being said, it would be nice if you would read entire posts - I did say that I would prefer to train a cat out of it, but would declaw the cat if there were no other options. It seems like you ignored my entire post, read the last little paragraph and then made a snarky remark.
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Kwayera wrote: myfurrypanda wrote: My declawed cat was able to groom himself just fine, and he went through the motions of scratching. He was not in pain, aggressive, or mentally unstable. He was declawed when he was quite young, and adjusted just fine. All 4 of his brothers and sisters AND his mother died within 2 years after he was born (poison from neighboring farms or getting hit by cars). He lived until he was 15, and was quite happy. Declawing a cat is not the end of the world. You can't compare the end of a cat's toes to a human's fingertips - a cat does not think of the end of his toes the way we think of our fingertips. Sure, I wouldn't give up my fingertips to have nice furniture... but maybe my toes (assuming there would be no visible scarring i.e. if I had fur). That being said, it would be nice if you would read entire posts - I did say that I would prefer to train a cat out of it, but would declaw the cat if there were no other options. It seems like you ignored my entire post, read the last little paragraph and then made a snarky remark. Cats use their claws in their grooming, so clearly, he wasn't able to groom himself as he otherwise would have. And yes, declawing a cat is exactly like removing your fingertips - same bones, same nerves, same tendons - except worse, because it removes the part of the bone that they use to stand on. Your cat had to adjust to an entirely new way of walking, of playing, of using his bloody litterbox. Through your rosy eyes, no, he probably didn't look outwardly distressed by it.
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sellefrancais wrote: I've skimmed the posts, and don't really know much about declawing, never had it done to any of my cats, but you could always try the cap things as an alternative if you have a cat who scratches things: http://www.softpaws.com/
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