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Apr 16 08 2:44 PM
shiggins wrote: Goflipper wrote: I know people that give a little ace to bleeders. But, if it dilates the blood vessels, wouldnt that make the horse even more likely to bleed?
Goflipper wrote: I know people that give a little ace to bleeders.
That's what I thought too. When my mom had racehorses they would give Lasix to bleeders which is a diuretic so go figure?
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Apr 16 08 2:50 PM
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Apr 16 08 3:34 PM
HorseHawk wrote: I thought this was a very good artical on Ace. "There are four big sedatives that a vet uses for average horses: Ace, Dormosedan, Torbogeisic, and Rompun. Ketamine can be used also but that is usually just for sedation prior to surgery. Of those drugs, Ace is the only one that is not a controlled substance. The other drugs require that the vet record how much was given and to whom. Acepromazine, medetomidine (aka Dormosedan) and xylazine (aka rompun) Are NOT controlled substances in the US. Just the ketamine. A vet can hand out ace, domitor/dormosedan and rompun to anyone who asks
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Apr 16 08 4:18 PM
jaycyrewin wrote: HorseHawk wrote: I thought this was a very good artical on Ace. "There are four big sedatives that a vet uses for average horses: Ace, Dormosedan, Torbogeisic, and Rompun. Ketamine can be used also but that is usually just for sedation prior to surgery. Of those drugs, Ace is the only one that is not a controlled substance. The other drugs require that the vet record how much was given and to whom. Acepromazine, medetomidine (aka Dormosedan) and xylazine (aka rompun) Are NOT controlled substances in the US. Just the ketamine. A vet can hand out ace, domitor/dormosedan and rompun to anyone who asks __________________________________________________________________ Where did you get your info? As laws change all the time. My resources may be out dated. As I read where they are class II controlled substances here in the United States. Yes they can be handed out but by law the vet has to log who & where they went to.
HorseHawk wrote: I thought this was a very good artical on Ace. "There are four big sedatives that a vet uses for average horses: Ace, Dormosedan, Torbogeisic, and Rompun. Ketamine can be used also but that is usually just for sedation prior to surgery. Of those drugs, Ace is the only one that is not a controlled substance. The other drugs require that the vet record how much was given and to whom. Acepromazine, medetomidine (aka Dormosedan) and xylazine (aka rompun) Are NOT controlled substances in the US. Just the ketamine. A vet can hand out ace, domitor/dormosedan and rompun to anyone who asks __________________________________________________________________ Where did you get your info? As laws change all the time. My resources may be out dated. As I read where they are class II controlled substances here in the United States. Yes they can be handed out but by law the vet has to log who & where they went to.
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Apr 16 08 5:14 PM
I'm in charge of logging drugs in and out at the vet clinic I work at. Domitor/Dormosedan and Xylazine/Rompun are kept on the shelf, do not have to be locked up. Ditto with acepromazine. If you look on all the bottles, there are no "CII" symbols on the bottle that would symbolize being controlled. Yes, we always write in the record who got what, but if the DEA comes out, they're looking at our morphine, telazol, ketamine, diazepam, pentobarbitol, phenobarbitol logs. No log for dormosedan/rompun. That's why we use them so much, less paperwork. Here's a link to most of the CII drugs http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/schedules/listby_sched/sched2.htm
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Apr 16 08 5:25 PM
Hunter Princess wrote: I do not have time for your ridiculous passive aggressiveness. Off my thread, please.
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Apr 16 08 8:39 PM
You would think so. I think they said it lowered the blood pressure or something.
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