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Aug 26 09 10:04 AM
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Aug 26 09 10:05 AM
charleyharvey wrote: SM is a smart lady. She'd run circles around half the people on this board who pride themselves on their cleverness and intellect.
RebelsBuckaroo wrote: SM's all badass keeping illegal chickens in her yard and what not. She's a G.
baxtersmom wrote: When the Nation of FiSH arises, SM will be the Intelligence and Communications Director.
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Aug 26 09 10:14 AM
dogsnhorses wrote: dawggie wrote: StreetMutt wrote: Agreed. I wasn't implying it was a tragedy for him in some self-interested way. But I don't think you can crucify someone who swam 500 meters after a car wreck and then passed out (most likely due to shock over liquor). I wasn't there that night and I'm not going to say what he did was right. It was wrong, wrong, wrong. But you can't deny that it haunted him and he made a valiant effort to serve the American people afterward (no matter his beliefs). He was a big part of the "No Child Left Behind" program, as well as justice for equal rights and State Child Health insurance programs. I'd say he had a productive 40+ years in government. And we all know how well that's working.....
dawggie wrote: StreetMutt wrote: Agreed. I wasn't implying it was a tragedy for him in some self-interested way. But I don't think you can crucify someone who swam 500 meters after a car wreck and then passed out (most likely due to shock over liquor). I wasn't there that night and I'm not going to say what he did was right. It was wrong, wrong, wrong. But you can't deny that it haunted him and he made a valiant effort to serve the American people afterward (no matter his beliefs). He was a big part of the "No Child Left Behind" program, as well as justice for equal rights and State Child Health insurance programs. I'd say he had a productive 40+ years in government.
StreetMutt wrote: Agreed. I wasn't implying it was a tragedy for him in some self-interested way. But I don't think you can crucify someone who swam 500 meters after a car wreck and then passed out (most likely due to shock over liquor). I wasn't there that night and I'm not going to say what he did was right. It was wrong, wrong, wrong. But you can't deny that it haunted him and he made a valiant effort to serve the American people afterward (no matter his beliefs).
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Aug 26 09 10:21 AM
StreetMutt wrote: Never said it was a valiant effort. According to testimony, he swam 500 meters (or might have been 500 feet, I don't recall, but either way doing that after a car wreck is pretty daunting), and went to his hotel room. He didn't call anyone. He already had a room. Literally no interaction. I'm not defending him. I've already called him stupid. In the 40 years since the incident, though, one would think there was much more to him than this incident (which there is).
Aug 26 09 11:55 AM
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Aug 26 09 12:05 PM
StreetMutt wrote: dawggie, your siggy is ginormous.
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Aug 26 09 12:08 PM
goflippr wrote: pdj47 wrote: StreetMutt wrote: Never said it was a valiant effort. According to testimony, he swam 500 meters (or might have been 500 feet, I don't recall, but either way doing that after a car wreck is pretty daunting), and went to his hotel room. He didn't call anyone. He already had a room. Literally no interaction. I'm not defending him. I've already called him stupid. In the 40 years since the incident, though, one would think there was much more to him than this incident (which there is). If he could swim & find his room he could have surly called the cops! But he was a drunk, rich married guy that wanted to get some teenage pussy & never thought about anything but covering his ass from the first second! I have to agree with PDJ here. If the consequences had not been death it would have been easier to forgive and forget. But a life was lost. Did he do anything after this to make up for her parents losing their child? The Kennedys had the money to buy their way out of any screw ups they made. Otherwise Ted would spent his life in prison, not the Senate.
pdj47 wrote: StreetMutt wrote: Never said it was a valiant effort. According to testimony, he swam 500 meters (or might have been 500 feet, I don't recall, but either way doing that after a car wreck is pretty daunting), and went to his hotel room. He didn't call anyone. He already had a room. Literally no interaction. I'm not defending him. I've already called him stupid. In the 40 years since the incident, though, one would think there was much more to him than this incident (which there is). If he could swim & find his room he could have surly called the cops! But he was a drunk, rich married guy that wanted to get some teenage pussy & never thought about anything but covering his ass from the first second!
Aug 26 09 12:45 PM
Aug 26 09 12:46 PM
ChrissyBz wrote: StreetMutt wrote: dawggie, your siggy is ginormous. *loves adblock
Aug 26 09 12:49 PM
Aug 26 09 3:05 PM
ChrissyBz wrote: I also heard he was kicked out of Harvard for cheating but it was hushed up and he was readmitted. Doesn't sound like a fine example to follow to me. I also think it's perfect justice that he will be remembered for the bad he did as well as the good. You don't turn into a paragon *goes to google* of virtue just by dying.
Aug 26 09 3:18 PM
ChrissyBz wrote: Yes I would. Because I blocked that specific picture. I'm not mean spirited...just plain mean.
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