This girl is fucking insane! This is the one who meated my horse. She never once says what the problem is, and many times says she is keeping him.. but I am the liar? Make sure you read the last one.. she admits to lying about her name online, and on the horses papers.. But how can she report the horse stolen.. if its not her real name on them?!? OMFG! Creepy Gnome looking stalker!
Here are the last few emails... From oldest to Newest.. SERIOUSLY FUCKING MENTAL!
I got 26 emails from the day of the trade (Dec. 22nd) til the 15th.I finally stopped opening them, then I got this one from her *father/mother/her. It has since be proven its her email address...
Hello,
You traded my daughter a horse not too long ago. She informed me that she emailed you regarding photos you had told her about, with concern to this horse being ridden. Your failure to produce said photos has me thinking that you sold my daughter a horse that is not even green broke. The horse she traded you is worth $2500. My daughter said you had listed it for sale at $1800, trading her a horse you had initially listed at $1000. She likes this horse very much, but it seems to not even be at a level where you could call it 'green under saddle'.
This is what we call fleecing. Finding a mark (in this case, my daughter) and selling something on false information. I am by no means accusing you, I am simply pointing out that by trading a less expensive, green/unbroke horse for a fully trained, and subsequently more expensive horse, the least you could have done is offered her some money on top of it. You had also told my daughter that the gelding was papered. It turns out that he is not. The horse she traded you was/is papered, which is why I am admittedly a bit pissed off. She is unable to register this new horse, which also pisses me off. It looks as if you took a horse and gave her a lesser animal, which cannot be registered, and there is no proof of his breeding.
So please, be honest with me.
1) What did my daughter's horse sell for?
2) Where are the pictures and papers for this gelding she now has?
3) Why do you now seem to ignore my daughter's emails requesting photos?
This is looking very dishonest to me.
G. Mustaine
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Then I got this one:
Hi Angel,
I am sorry about the letter my mom wrote, she tends to go off the deep end over things at times.
If you really regret trading Nemo to me, then here is a solution.
I will give him back to you, if you would give me that little bay quarter horse, Curly (I think it was Curly), we call it even, and I will never bug you again. I will also make sure my mom never bugs you again.
How about that? You get back a horse whose potential you see (I saw it too and liked him) and I will be happy with a small bay to just hit the trails with.
Would that be something you'd consider? You get Nemo again, I get Curly, call it even, call a truce, and call it done?
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The Curly horse was already sold! So I got this:
Okay, saw Curly sold. I'll keep nemo then.
again, sorry about my ma's letter.
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January 15th. She asked for pics of him being rode, I sent her the ones above with the trainer getting on. They are all I have. She never said she tried to ride him and he was bad.. nothing. Just kept asking for pics (this is the 6th email) asking for pics AFTER the trade was done.
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The pictures you sent me did not prove that 'nemo' has ever been ridden. They showed some man attempting to get on, but there was no picture of him being ridden.
You also told me that my mare 'never had any formal training' etc. which brings me to ask how "formal" you had wanted it to be.
I bought her as an unbroken three year old, personally started her under saddle, and had her going well, with excellent manners both on the ground and under saddle. Never once did she buck, bolt, kick or bite, nor did she ever offer to. She had carried me on trails, by large trucks, motorcycles and other noisy vehicle traffic, all without complaint.
I'd call that trained.
When I first looked at 'nemo', you told me he had been ridden, and that you had pictures of someone ON him, riding. You also told my husband that you had personally ridden him a few times. Yet there is no evidence whatsoever that he has ever been actually ridden.
You also told me that Jamie Payton has the papers for him, but when I talked to him, he doesn't even remember having the horse..or so he says.
I'd really like to know when you got nemo (year) and how old he was when you got him, and where you got him from. Questions I should have asked you from the beginning.
Yes, I am still keeping him.
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Then this one : (same day)
Oh, so you don't have pics of your friends riding him?
And, if you're snapping at me about my asking about a trade...
If you didn't want to trade, WHY did you accept?
I am glad I have him, just wanted to know more of the history on him, that's all.
You don't have to be snappy. Sheesh.
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The I got this fucking prize! When she called asking for the trade, I told her her mare would be sold. I made sure she was ok with that, since she owned the mare for 10 years...
"Why would anyone pay a trainer to mount the horse, but not put a few rides on him?"
You never said a trainer rode him. You said "some guy". I said he had 90 days with an NH trainer, and that these pics were with the trainer
This isn't about the trade, so please stop perseverating on 'the trade'. It was a good trade, and that's it. Why are you so unhappy about it now? That, and you had told me you were intending to keep Kaylee. But you sold her, and I am not mad about that in the least.
Why be mad at me for asking about my new horse's lineage?
Normally, people become angry and defensive if they are hiding something.
You say your friends rode him, and that is good, but where are the pics? You take pics of the other horses you're selling, being ridden. Why not this horse?
Just saying.
Ps. Blue's price keeps going up..and down...and up again. I would have bought her too, if the price had stayed set certain, instead of fluctuating as often as it has.
reveesrohrehtonallesrevenlliwuoy
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Same day.. I get this one:
Actually, I was on disability because of a few missing toes on my foot.
As for selling nemo.. not going to happen. If anyone is insane, it's you. What sane person would name a horse nemo? If you really want the horse back that badly, give me $1,000.
Nice try, calling me insane.
You never offered Blue for free, or even for the cost of board. You had better keep track of the shit you tell people, as there are many who have a better memory of your lies than you do.
I will quit emailing you. You are ignorant of anyone but yourself.
Thanks for lying to sell horses. Now we see you for what you are.
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At this point I told her she was bloody mental, and to leave me alone. She says she is on disability for missing toes.. but if you ever met her and her husband, meaning this in the nicest way possible its very obvious the suffer from something. They look like shrek and quasimodo
Funny how you're quick to point fingers and call names. Can you not show more intelligence?
I guess a civil email is beyond your capability. Perhaps it's you who needs pills.
They don't give pills for missing toes, so you may want to retract your statement.
Then again, it's expected from an ignorant person, such as you've proven to be.
You never offered Blue "for just the cost of board". You expected a payment of $200 per month, with a $225 per month board fee on top of it. You must really think I don't remember what people say. Why don't you quit the bullshit already? And my saying we "couldn't afford it" is a nice way of telling you that I don't feel like spending hard earned money (yes, I also work, not just depend on a "disability" pension, as you claim I do) on your 'plain headed' TB filly, who does not even come with papers. Any sensible buyer would insist on papers for a horse who is represented as a TB, so I hope you have them, or good luck selling her.
You can be vindicitve all you want, and I'll be sure to forward all your recent emails to nemo's breeder, so they can also figure out just what kind of a person you are.
Personally, it doesn't matter to me wheather nemo's breeder helps me or not.
I've sent his papers to the ApHC already.
Oh, and the next time you name call, please make sure you know your facts.
I am not insane, certifiable or anything of the like. I lost toes due to a work related accident years ago, thanks in part to a negligent boss.
Now, if you don't mind... piss off.
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Note, still at this point, we have no idea what her problem is... not a I tried to get on him and he bucked.. NOTHING! I listed him as green, and advised her to start him over as if he was 2 yrs old. Her email, and names online are Small Creek Farms Racing stable.. you would assume race trainers would be able to work a horse?
I then got a message on our forums from her, saying her dad was not happy with the trade, and feel she should have got $150-$200 on top of Nemo. I cant open it, cause the loser got my account suspended over this whole shindig!
Then I get one on the 23rd, her saying I am lying (because in one post I list that I am selling a few greeneis due to knee surgery, and in another post I say I shattered my knee.. Umm.. Yeah. Damaging your knee generally turns into surgery. Duh!
I at this point called her out for being a deformed little ogre... and told her to leave me the hell alone.
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Then got this last night. I am filing a police report tomorrow morning. The facility she is talking about, is one I dont advertise, and have NEVER taken a potential boarder too... Although she lists the wrong colour barn, still wayy to scary..
wow. nice name calling. if you keep emailing me, you fucking cunt, by the time I get through with you, your credibility in the horse industry will be shot to shit. I know where your second facility with 8 acres is, you know..Ross road, nice old white painted cow barn.
You should really watch your step, with all the shit you say to people. You never know who they know, and what they might be capable of.
That, and I didn't even use my real name on HCBC, or even on those papers. So I could actually declare Kaylee stolen, and that would really make you look like shit.
So like I said, you're on thin ice.
Here are the last few emails... From oldest to Newest.. SERIOUSLY FUCKING MENTAL!
I got 26 emails from the day of the trade (Dec. 22nd) til the 15th.I finally stopped opening them, then I got this one from her *father/mother/her. It has since be proven its her email address...
Hello,
You traded my daughter a horse not too long ago. She informed me that she emailed you regarding photos you had told her about, with concern to this horse being ridden. Your failure to produce said photos has me thinking that you sold my daughter a horse that is not even green broke. The horse she traded you is worth $2500. My daughter said you had listed it for sale at $1800, trading her a horse you had initially listed at $1000. She likes this horse very much, but it seems to not even be at a level where you could call it 'green under saddle'.
This is what we call fleecing. Finding a mark (in this case, my daughter) and selling something on false information. I am by no means accusing you, I am simply pointing out that by trading a less expensive, green/unbroke horse for a fully trained, and subsequently more expensive horse, the least you could have done is offered her some money on top of it. You had also told my daughter that the gelding was papered. It turns out that he is not. The horse she traded you was/is papered, which is why I am admittedly a bit pissed off. She is unable to register this new horse, which also pisses me off. It looks as if you took a horse and gave her a lesser animal, which cannot be registered, and there is no proof of his breeding.
So please, be honest with me.
1) What did my daughter's horse sell for?
2) Where are the pictures and papers for this gelding she now has?
3) Why do you now seem to ignore my daughter's emails requesting photos?
This is looking very dishonest to me.
G. Mustaine
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Then I got this one:
Hi Angel,
I am sorry about the letter my mom wrote, she tends to go off the deep end over things at times.
If you really regret trading Nemo to me, then here is a solution.
I will give him back to you, if you would give me that little bay quarter horse, Curly (I think it was Curly), we call it even, and I will never bug you again. I will also make sure my mom never bugs you again.
How about that? You get back a horse whose potential you see (I saw it too and liked him) and I will be happy with a small bay to just hit the trails with.
Would that be something you'd consider? You get Nemo again, I get Curly, call it even, call a truce, and call it done?
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The Curly horse was already sold! So I got this:
Okay, saw Curly sold. I'll keep nemo then.
again, sorry about my ma's letter.
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January 15th. She asked for pics of him being rode, I sent her the ones above with the trainer getting on. They are all I have. She never said she tried to ride him and he was bad.. nothing. Just kept asking for pics (this is the 6th email) asking for pics AFTER the trade was done.
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The pictures you sent me did not prove that 'nemo' has ever been ridden. They showed some man attempting to get on, but there was no picture of him being ridden.
You also told me that my mare 'never had any formal training' etc. which brings me to ask how "formal" you had wanted it to be.
I bought her as an unbroken three year old, personally started her under saddle, and had her going well, with excellent manners both on the ground and under saddle. Never once did she buck, bolt, kick or bite, nor did she ever offer to. She had carried me on trails, by large trucks, motorcycles and other noisy vehicle traffic, all without complaint.
I'd call that trained.
When I first looked at 'nemo', you told me he had been ridden, and that you had pictures of someone ON him, riding. You also told my husband that you had personally ridden him a few times. Yet there is no evidence whatsoever that he has ever been actually ridden.
You also told me that Jamie Payton has the papers for him, but when I talked to him, he doesn't even remember having the horse..or so he says.
I'd really like to know when you got nemo (year) and how old he was when you got him, and where you got him from. Questions I should have asked you from the beginning.
Yes, I am still keeping him.
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Then this one : (same day)
Oh, so you don't have pics of your friends riding him?
And, if you're snapping at me about my asking about a trade...
If you didn't want to trade, WHY did you accept?
I am glad I have him, just wanted to know more of the history on him, that's all.
You don't have to be snappy. Sheesh.
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The I got this fucking prize! When she called asking for the trade, I told her her mare would be sold. I made sure she was ok with that, since she owned the mare for 10 years...
"Why would anyone pay a trainer to mount the horse, but not put a few rides on him?"
You never said a trainer rode him. You said "some guy". I said he had 90 days with an NH trainer, and that these pics were with the trainer
This isn't about the trade, so please stop perseverating on 'the trade'. It was a good trade, and that's it. Why are you so unhappy about it now? That, and you had told me you were intending to keep Kaylee. But you sold her, and I am not mad about that in the least.
Why be mad at me for asking about my new horse's lineage?
Normally, people become angry and defensive if they are hiding something.
You say your friends rode him, and that is good, but where are the pics? You take pics of the other horses you're selling, being ridden. Why not this horse?
Just saying.
Ps. Blue's price keeps going up..and down...and up again. I would have bought her too, if the price had stayed set certain, instead of fluctuating as often as it has.
reveesrohrehtonallesrevenlliwuoy
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Same day.. I get this one:
Actually, I was on disability because of a few missing toes on my foot.
As for selling nemo.. not going to happen. If anyone is insane, it's you. What sane person would name a horse nemo? If you really want the horse back that badly, give me $1,000.
Nice try, calling me insane.
You never offered Blue for free, or even for the cost of board. You had better keep track of the shit you tell people, as there are many who have a better memory of your lies than you do.
I will quit emailing you. You are ignorant of anyone but yourself.
Thanks for lying to sell horses. Now we see you for what you are.
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At this point I told her she was bloody mental, and to leave me alone. She says she is on disability for missing toes.. but if you ever met her and her husband, meaning this in the nicest way possible its very obvious the suffer from something. They look like shrek and quasimodo
Funny how you're quick to point fingers and call names. Can you not show more intelligence?
I guess a civil email is beyond your capability. Perhaps it's you who needs pills.
They don't give pills for missing toes, so you may want to retract your statement.
Then again, it's expected from an ignorant person, such as you've proven to be.
You never offered Blue "for just the cost of board". You expected a payment of $200 per month, with a $225 per month board fee on top of it. You must really think I don't remember what people say. Why don't you quit the bullshit already? And my saying we "couldn't afford it" is a nice way of telling you that I don't feel like spending hard earned money (yes, I also work, not just depend on a "disability" pension, as you claim I do) on your 'plain headed' TB filly, who does not even come with papers. Any sensible buyer would insist on papers for a horse who is represented as a TB, so I hope you have them, or good luck selling her.
You can be vindicitve all you want, and I'll be sure to forward all your recent emails to nemo's breeder, so they can also figure out just what kind of a person you are.
Personally, it doesn't matter to me wheather nemo's breeder helps me or not.
I've sent his papers to the ApHC already.
Oh, and the next time you name call, please make sure you know your facts.
I am not insane, certifiable or anything of the like. I lost toes due to a work related accident years ago, thanks in part to a negligent boss.
Now, if you don't mind... piss off.
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Note, still at this point, we have no idea what her problem is... not a I tried to get on him and he bucked.. NOTHING! I listed him as green, and advised her to start him over as if he was 2 yrs old. Her email, and names online are Small Creek Farms Racing stable.. you would assume race trainers would be able to work a horse?
I then got a message on our forums from her, saying her dad was not happy with the trade, and feel she should have got $150-$200 on top of Nemo. I cant open it, cause the loser got my account suspended over this whole shindig!
Then I get one on the 23rd, her saying I am lying (because in one post I list that I am selling a few greeneis due to knee surgery, and in another post I say I shattered my knee.. Umm.. Yeah. Damaging your knee generally turns into surgery. Duh!
I at this point called her out for being a deformed little ogre... and told her to leave me the hell alone.
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Then got this last night. I am filing a police report tomorrow morning. The facility she is talking about, is one I dont advertise, and have NEVER taken a potential boarder too... Although she lists the wrong colour barn, still wayy to scary..
wow. nice name calling. if you keep emailing me, you fucking cunt, by the time I get through with you, your credibility in the horse industry will be shot to shit. I know where your second facility with 8 acres is, you know..Ross road, nice old white painted cow barn.
You should really watch your step, with all the shit you say to people. You never know who they know, and what they might be capable of.
That, and I didn't even use my real name on HCBC, or even on those papers. So I could actually declare Kaylee stolen, and that would really make you look like shit.
So like I said, you're on thin ice.
