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May 5 10 8:11 AM
HorseHawk wrote: forthefutureofthebreed wrote: Where was anyone suggesting that this person should have picked up a rescue or some grade POS?From the comments in the other thread (Free Speech My Ass).The remarks about how "insane" it is for that man to pay that kind of money for a horse "just for trail riding" tells me many don't feel the mare is worthy of that sort of investment. There is no other logical explanation for that line of reasoning. How strange is it that many don't see the value in paying good money for a top quality horse, yet will invest thousands into the maintenance of a rescue that will never be a productive member of horsey society?Since we don't know all the details (or what exactly the buyer was looking for), we shouldn't criticize the buyer (i. e. "more money than brains"). Absolutely, there are plenty of horses available out there (here and in Australia) of all levels of quality, ranging in price from free to the big bucks. However, if a buyer is looking for a certain quality or type, it's not unusual at all for them to pay good money for it. A high quality horse (of any breed) is difficult to find, if your selection criteria is high enough. Evidently, this mare fit exactly what the buyer was looking for, regardless of her price or her intended purpose. Why...YES! As he might have been on the chunky side & wanted to bounce some of that extra weight off while trail riding a pretty horse...huh. hotternhel wrote: I think she rides a little rougher due to her back and her pasterns. While her back looks short in pictures, it is much shorter in person. She also has a lot of suspension in her gaits and I think, due to the elbow break, she compensates by trying to lift her shoulder higher to get that front leg out in front of her. She also flips her RF ankle to the outside when the foot lands, but only when going counter clockwise. Her overall compactness makes for a very different ride than what I am used to. It feels as though you are on a very wide giant ball of muscle mass. She is also not slow legged, which makes her stride much choppier. Compared to Gert, who has a longer back, shorter pasterns and a longer hip, with a more upright shoulder I would say Idgie rides like a Mack truck with 4 tons of rock in the back going down a bumpy road.
forthefutureofthebreed wrote: Where was anyone suggesting that this person should have picked up a rescue or some grade POS?From the comments in the other thread (Free Speech My Ass).The remarks about how "insane" it is for that man to pay that kind of money for a horse "just for trail riding" tells me many don't feel the mare is worthy of that sort of investment. There is no other logical explanation for that line of reasoning. How strange is it that many don't see the value in paying good money for a top quality horse, yet will invest thousands into the maintenance of a rescue that will never be a productive member of horsey society?Since we don't know all the details (or what exactly the buyer was looking for), we shouldn't criticize the buyer (i. e. "more money than brains"). Absolutely, there are plenty of horses available out there (here and in Australia) of all levels of quality, ranging in price from free to the big bucks. However, if a buyer is looking for a certain quality or type, it's not unusual at all for them to pay good money for it. A high quality horse (of any breed) is difficult to find, if your selection criteria is high enough. Evidently, this mare fit exactly what the buyer was looking for, regardless of her price or her intended purpose.
Where was anyone suggesting that this person should have picked up a rescue or some grade POS?
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May 5 10 8:17 AM
CowgrlsDontCry wrote: Who cares! He could pay 5 million for the mare 5 times over and it really doesn't matter or is anyones business how HE spends HIS money.. So he sounds rich and full of $$ he can throw arounnd easily, good for him. And now this mare is going to have an excellent home. Good for her! IMO a horse is always worth what someone is willing to pay.
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May 5 10 8:23 AM
horsewoman1965 wrote: HorseHawk wrote: forthefutureofthebreed wrote: Where was anyone suggesting that this person should have picked up a rescue or some grade POS?From the comments in the other thread (Free Speech My Ass).The remarks about how "insane" it is for that man to pay that kind of money for a horse "just for trail riding" tells me many don't feel the mare is worthy of that sort of investment. There is no other logical explanation for that line of reasoning. How strange is it that many don't see the value in paying good money for a top quality horse, yet will invest thousands into the maintenance of a rescue that will never be a productive member of horsey society?Since we don't know all the details (or what exactly the buyer was looking for), we shouldn't criticize the buyer (i. e. "more money than brains"). Absolutely, there are plenty of horses available out there (here and in Australia) of all levels of quality, ranging in price from free to the big bucks. However, if a buyer is looking for a certain quality or type, it's not unusual at all for them to pay good money for it. A high quality horse (of any breed) is difficult to find, if your selection criteria is high enough. Evidently, this mare fit exactly what the buyer was looking for, regardless of her price or her intended purpose. Why...YES! As he might have been on the chunky side & wanted to bounce some of that extra weight off while trail riding a pretty horse...huh. hotternhel wrote: I think she rides a little rougher due to her back and her pasterns. While her back looks short in pictures, it is much shorter in person. She also has a lot of suspension in her gaits and I think, due to the elbow break, she compensates by trying to lift her shoulder higher to get that front leg out in front of her. She also flips her RF ankle to the outside when the foot lands, but only when going counter clockwise. Her overall compactness makes for a very different ride than what I am used to. It feels as though you are on a very wide giant ball of muscle mass. She is also not slow legged, which makes her stride much choppier. Compared to Gert, who has a longer back, shorter pasterns and a longer hip, with a more upright shoulder I would say Idgie rides like a Mack truck with 4 tons of rock in the back going down a bumpy road. and how long ago was this?I ask because I do remember the comment but I also know her gaits have improved with more saddle work.
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May 5 10 8:39 AM
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May 5 10 8:55 AM
hotternhel wrote: You have to remember HH, I'm used to riding what could be considered a cadillac (Gertie). Many horses I ride are rougher than Gertie. Take Ollie for example, bigger stride, more suspension, also bred for pleasure. He's feels rough to me, even at a jog he can jar my teeth. Everyone else that has ridden him said he's smooth. Tess is rough at a canter and smooth at a trot. I've ridden some top notch pleasure horses that I wouldn't ride on a trail. Idgie's very comfortable on trails and easy to ride.She will go through, under, or over anything. She's relaxed, calm, not marish, ties to a picket line just fine, and has the stamina to ride out all day, no matter the terrain. She's not easily spooked and goes with the flow. Since I made that post you are referring to, I've done quite a bit more work with her. She's done some HUS, she's sorted cattle in team sortings, she's learned to track cows for roping, and most importantly, she has learned to better balance herself with a rider. She's a good solid using mare with a pedigree full of versatility and she's been shown. She's DR, has good color, can be registered pinto as well, and has a disposition that many look hard, and long for, to find in a mare.Should he decide later that he wants to get into showing, she can do that. If she wants to putt around on trails, she can do that. If he wants to sort cows or pen, she can do that too. If he wants to throw his kids on her for a ride, she can do that. Should he want to breed her in a year, yup, she can do that too. She's bred to cross well on a variety of different types of horses.The buyer found what he wanted and he bought it. They are an excellent match and she is capable of doing what he wants to do with her. End of story.
May 5 10 9:01 AM
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May 5 10 9:05 AM
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May 5 10 9:07 AM
CowgrlsDontCry wrote:Who cares! He could pay 5 million for the mare 5 times over and it really doesn't matter or is anyones business how HE spends HIS money.. So he sounds rich and full of $$ he can throw arounnd easily, good for him. And now this mare is going to have an excellent home. Good for her! IMO a horse is always worth what someone is willing to pay.
hotternhel wrote: Why are you being so nasty? Have I been nasty to you? Have you ridden the mare yourself? How are you capable of understanding what MY perception of a rough or smooth ride is? Are you my ass?
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May 5 10 9:11 AM
Foxhunter wrote:I don't even think the amount of money was really the issue - it was that he paid a good amount for a horse, and will probably nearly double that amount shipping her to Australia, and of course there are risks when you ship over such large distances. If he's planning to use her in a breeding program, that's a somewhat different story.
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May 5 10 9:15 AM
shiggins wrote: CowgrlsDontCry wrote: Who cares! He could pay 5 million for the mare 5 times over and it really doesn't matter or is anyones business how HE spends HIS money.. So he sounds rich and full of $$ he can throw arounnd easily, good for him. And now this mare is going to have an excellent home. Good for her! IMO a horse is always worth what someone is willing to pay.True. But the title of the thread is more like a big "fuck you" to anyone who ever said the horse market was in the crapper.IMO, this only proves it IS in the crapper. First, the horse was for sale here, but didnt sell here, she sold to Australia. Second, 10-20k range is not a lot of money for a "quality horse". So while congrats on selling is great, the whole tone of the thread is a big fat I told you so, except I dont know whats trying to be proved. While I agree the top end of the horse market will never dwindle, this is not the top.
May 5 10 9:17 AM
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May 5 10 9:20 AM
HorseHawk wrote:forthefutureofthebreed wrote: Where was anyone suggesting that this person should have picked up a rescue or some grade POS?From the comments in the other thread (Free Speech My Ass).The remarks about how "insane" it is for that man to pay that kind of money for a horse "just for trail riding" tells me many don't feel the mare is worthy of that sort of investment. There is no other logical explanation for that line of reasoning. How strange is it that many don't see the value in paying good money for a top quality horse, yet will invest thousands into the maintenance of a rescue that will never be a productive member of horsey society?Since we don't know all the details (or what exactly the buyer was looking for), we shouldn't criticize the buyer (i. e. "more money than brains"). Absolutely, there are plenty of horses available out there (here and in Australia) of all levels of quality, ranging in price from free to the big bucks. However, if a buyer is looking for a certain quality or type, it's not unusual at all for them to pay good money for it. A high quality horse (of any breed) is difficult to find, if your selection criteria is high enough. Evidently, this mare fit exactly what the buyer was looking for, regardless of her price or her intended purpose. Why...YES! As he might have been on the chunky side & wanted to bounce some of that extra weight off while trail riding a pretty horse...huh. hotternhel wrote: I think she rides a little rougher due to her back and her pasterns. While her back looks short in pictures, it is much shorter in person. She also has a lot of suspension in her gaits and I think, due to the elbow break, she compensates by trying to lift her shoulder higher to get that front leg out in front of her. She also flips her RF ankle to the outside when the foot lands, but only when going counter clockwise. Her overall compactness makes for a very different ride than what I am used to. It feels as though you are on a very wide giant ball of muscle mass. She is also not slow legged, which makes her stride much choppier. Compared to Gert, who has a longer back, shorter pasterns and a longer hip, with a more upright shoulder I would say Idgie rides like a Mack truck with 4 tons of rock in the back going down a bumpy road.
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May 5 10 9:21 AM
shiggins wrote:True. But the title of the thread is more like a big "fuck you" to anyone who ever said the horse market was in the crapper.IMO, this only proves it IS in the crapper. First, the horse was for sale here, but didnt sell here, she sold to Australia. Second, 10-20k range is not a lot of money for a "quality horse". So while congrats on selling is great, the whole tone of the thread is a big fat I told you so, except I dont know whats trying to be proved. While I agree the top end of the horse market will never dwindle, this is not the top.
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