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Jan 1 11 9:17 PM
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Cali, sometimes life gets in the way of making good horsekeeping decisions. I'm sure she would have loved to have had him with her the whole time and couldn't for reasons beyond her control.And here we go again with the same old shit! Some people get a free pass and some people get their asses flamed. Reasons beyond her control?? WTF are some of you smokin? Regardless of what the reasons were, there is never an excuse good enough(unless you're medically incapacitated or deceased) that you should not be able to provide proper care for your god damned horse(s). If you can not provide that care then the horse needs to be in the hands of someone who will or is able!! End of fucking story.So her mother padlocked the property and wouldn't let anyone in? That would've been a huge sign that he needed to be moved somewhere that farrier and vet care were able to be administered in a timely fashion. It doesn't take someone over 6 months to figure out that the situation is not ideal and that moving the horse to a proper facility would be in his best interest. I have a feeling that if we were to hear from her mother, that her story would be quite a bit different from AOA's. Yes, I dropped the ball on my horse. I went from GA into an incredibly awful, abusive situation in MD with someone I had been dating for a long while and thought I knew. In the process I lost my car, my finances for 6 months, and everything I owned in the world except for my children and I'[s clothing and a horse I *thought* was safe- if not cared for the way I would want to- in FL. It happened to be sheer blind luck that my estranged husband broke up with his GF at the same time I was moving to KY- and yeah, we really are that couple who is only staying together for the kids- and because with both of us working and adding our income into the household, we make very decent money. The original plan was for him to take custody of the kids and for me to either go back to traveling full-time or back to FL. Either way, I would have been based from FL and working, and with Luke, who at that point, my mother and I were discussing putting out on a lease with a family friend who knows him, and knows what he is- safe to a certain extent, but he's never going to be the horse you can turn your back on or give an inch. There's so much wrong with the above paragraph that I just don't know where to start. Let me get this straight...you're married, have kids...but you were in an awful abusive situation and lost almost everything but your kids. Were your kids in this awful, abusive situation with you as well?? I'm going to assume they were. Your estranged husband broke up with his girlfriend and decided to let you come live with him. I guess that's okay...after all, it is for the kids. Only staying together for the kids...NOT going to touch that one. You were going to leave your kids, but at least you would be with your horse or at least pawn him off on someone...there's a pattern here. Get rid of the kids and the horse in one fell swoop.Since 10/30 of this year I have managed to salvage my life to the point where I was able to say with absolute certainty(with the way your life has been going the last year at least, just how do you know anything with absolute certainty, least of all if you can provide a reliable, stable home for your horse, when you can't seem to do that for yourself or your kids?) that I was bringing him home. I work two jobs for a reason- money pays bills and brings my stupid, silly little horse to me, where I know exactly what is going on with him. The third job I'm going to be starting? That would be the job stripping? That's for a reason too, as I'm no longer looking at 300 in vet and farrier for two horses and 500 or so to ship a horse from FL to KY. I'm looking at 800-1000 minimum to purchase a horse that shouldn't have been going ANYWHERE, and shipping, and a vet check and health certification. No, I haven't made the best choices in my life- gods know I can be as stupid as the next person. And I don't have any foals- I had one accident that aborted. That mare is the one who was pastured with Luke- she's fine, if you consider long feet and no vet for the last year fine. My sister's 30+ year old pony is the one who died. Mares that don't get proper care while they are pregnant are at a higher risk for aborting foals, especially when they don't get their vaccines. I guess it's a good thing she aborted and you finally gelded Luke before he could make a second attempt. Because we all know they would've been pastured together and you would have been safe knowing that you had iron in the water tank for birth control. Whew! I'm glad you had that covered.No, I am not perfect, and yes, I screwed up royally here. However, in seven years of owning Luke, the worst thing that's ever happened to him is long feet- which have never been so long that they've kept him from running, playing, moving around like a normal horse. He's never colicked, had an abcess, gotten cut open and needed stitches. He was lame for four days once because a farrier I tried messed up his feet. We went back to our regular farrier after that, because it may have taken him longer to get to us, but at least he didn't fuck it up. Actually, I take it back that nothing's ever happened to him- he once tried to swallow a pear whole and choked. We knocked it clear enough for him to breathe, called the vet, and he had to be tubed to make sure it was clear. I remember the worst thing about that whole event was forgetting to warn the vet (different from my usual one) that Luke doesn't take tranqs- and Luke slammed him against a tree.All of that, I freely admit. Yeah, his feet were long when the most recent images I have of him were taken. The farrier came out two days later. They were done again in June. And again in August. He's one trim behind right now (Should have been done mid-late October). He needs his shots done, and a Coggins pulled. This is all stuff I've said. I just want to find him, and get him home. That's been my whole goal straight ahead, since I went from being half a mile from him to 25 miles from him, to being a thousand miles away from him. And yes, I'm pissed that I finally have the ability to get him home-You finally have the ability because you're counting your estranged husband's income. What happens if he decides it's not working out? Where are you and your kids then? Or will you leave the kids for him to deal with while you go out and get another job so you can afford your horse?, and he's gone, and my family thinks I should be okay with this. Sorry if that's a difficult concept to grasp
Cali, sometimes life gets in the way of making good horsekeeping decisions. I'm sure she would have loved to have had him with her the whole time and couldn't for reasons beyond her control.And here we go again with the same old shit! Some people get a free pass and some people get their asses flamed. Reasons beyond her control?? WTF are some of you smokin? Regardless of what the reasons were, there is never an excuse good enough(unless you're medically incapacitated or deceased) that you should not be able to provide proper care for your god damned horse(s). If you can not provide that care then the horse needs to be in the hands of someone who will or is able!! End of fucking story.So her mother padlocked the property and wouldn't let anyone in? That would've been a huge sign that he needed to be moved somewhere that farrier and vet care were able to be administered in a timely fashion. It doesn't take someone over 6 months to figure out that the situation is not ideal and that moving the horse to a proper facility would be in his best interest. I have a feeling that if we were to hear from her mother, that her story would be quite a bit different from AOA's.
Cali, sometimes life gets in the way of making good horsekeeping decisions. I'm sure she would have loved to have had him with her the whole time and couldn't for reasons beyond her control.
As many of the "we" and "us" people have stated, you do not get a second chance to participate as a valued, contributing member here no matter what you say. After considering that fact, I have nothing to lose by posting whatever I please.
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pentack wrote:**wishes I had made money stripping when I had the body for it. Now they would pay me to put it back on.
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I'll just post this link:
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V E R S A T I L I T Y !
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rosesr4evr wrote:Who the fuck really cares? I'm done.
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oh Puh leeze wrote:AAoA, I hope you find Luke with (relatively little) stress.And now for today's class, since this has been an issue on FiSH lately: The difference between Civil and Criminal issues in the US (USA only; YMMV, void where prohibited and some restrictions apply.)Criminal charges are brought by a government figure, such as a sheriff or district attorney acting in place of the State, against a civilian. While a fine may be a possible punishment or restitution, the true punishment is loss of liberty - prison, jail, slammer, pokey, hoosegow, The Tank, whatever you wish to call it. There are some things that society finds repulsive and the damage is to society as a whole, not to one individual, so society puts the offender in a cage. Civil charges are brought by one person against another for harm caused, and for which the damaged person can seek redress in the courts and be made whole. Usually the "make whole" remedy involves money to make up for something, but other times the "make whole" can be a court order to refrain from doing something, or to demand action be taken. Everyone's favorite example is OJ Simpson. Do we think he murdered his wife? Yup. Criminal charges are brought by the state, but the jury is not convinced beyond a reasonable doubt by the evidence. OJ doesn't get put in a cage. Next-of-kin sue OJ for wrongful death, and receive a large monetary award (which they can't collect because OJ's broke, but that's another story for another day.)So in the case of Luke the Missing Horse, the DA would have to charge AAoA's mother with theft of some kind, and spend a bunch of state money prosecuting, and at the end of the day nothing is likely to happen and in the meantime the horse is gone. The DA's don't usually charge people unless they think they have a chance of winning. If AAoA wanted to sue her mom for return of the horse in civil court, she could do that. But there are problems: first, nobody wants to sue their mom; and second, the horse isn't worth (in money) the amount it would cost to bring the case. Stuff like this only very rarely winds up in court.
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ass ugly person making himself look hotter. Well played.
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