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Feb 17 08 3:02 PM
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Feb 17 08 3:23 PM
Quote:I wonder how it is decided WHO and WHAT embryo's get registered?
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Feb 18 08 6:11 AM
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Feb 18 08 8:26 AM
Feb 18 08 9:23 AM
Quote:I don't particularly care for his head, and he looks "clunky" to me. He's too long, hocks too high....but that's just me.
Feb 18 08 10:04 AM
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Feb 18 08 10:22 AM
Quote:The general consensus seems to be the better looking the horse, the less desirable it is for a working horse. If the horse is nice looking, it simply must have a terrible mind, totally incapable of being an athlete trained to work.
Quote:So, in order to breed a decent working horse (cowhorses, specifically), we must sacrifice conformation, substance, and eye appeal?
Quote:Why can't a horse have conformation, substance, eye appeal AND athletic ability? Why must something be sacrificed for the other?
Quote:A horse that is very correct, balanced, and has eye appeal cannot be competitive in today's specialized events. That horse is just an all-around type that can't win in any one event. Whether breeders are aware of it or not, if they're breeding for one specific discipline, they are breeding away from the ideal. I don't want to hear about exceptions, because we all know they exist.
Quote:Exceptions to a rule aren't going to carry the entire breed or change much of anything.
Feb 18 08 10:30 AM
Quote:Interesting.Skip N Union is not what I would call a really GOOD example of Weiscamp breeding.He's a good example of people breeding because they heard linebred Skipper W's were the way to go.Here's his pedigree:www.allbreedpedigree.com/skip+n+unionSkipa Star would be a better example.
Feb 18 08 10:59 AM
Quote:And where do you get that from? I think you're projecting your on prejudice on me, because I'm sure as hell I've never said such thing.
Quote:No, in order to breed a decent working horse you have to be aware that there are more attributes than looks and if the horse looks good but can't work is completely worthless
Quote:Again, you got it backwards, if you get an outstanding performer you can't just dismiss it because it's not pretty, the horse is supposed to be a performer first.
Quote:I think I've figured out what's wrong with your way of thinking. You emphasize looks so much you assume that if a top performer doesn't have all the qualities mentioned above that's exactly the reason for it's success, it won because it has bad conformation. You don't realize that a horse can have other qualities that make it overcome its own flaws.
Feb 18 08 11:04 AM
Quote:Except for the Impressive bred ones, huh? those exceptions make the rule...
Feb 18 08 11:24 AM
Quote:I wonder how many embryo's have been sold out of Fiesta each year?
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Feb 18 08 11:35 AM
Feb 18 08 12:05 PM
Quote: Quote:No, in order to breed a decent working horse you have to be aware that there are more attributes than looks and if the horse looks good but can't work is completely worthlessI'm not talking about horses that look good but can't work. You're grabbing for the extreme end of scale to make your point. I don't care for horses that look good and can't perform, either.
Quote:No, I do not. I stated that there was no reason to sacrifice eye appeal for performance ability - and it's obvious to me that is what people are doing.
Quote:Oh, I realize that horses with bad conformation can overcome it with heart and training. BLM mustangs that have been trained to be winning working cowhorses proves that one. I emphasize eye appeal because I believe there's no reason to sacrifice it in favor of performance ability. It's possible to have both. I can show you examples of top performance horses with flawed conformation that allow them to win, if you'd like.
Feb 18 08 12:18 PM
Feb 18 08 2:05 PM
Quote:No, in order to breed a decent working horse you have to be aware that there are more attributes than looks and if the horse looks good but can't work is completely worthless but if the horse can work but is not good looking it'll be still useful. It's quite simple and logical actually
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