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Feb 9 08 12:02 PM
Quote:The difference between most foundation QHs and the type of horses I am breeding is mine have enough class and eye appeal to hold their own in a halter class. There's no reason to sacrifice class for any particular performance ability.
Feb 9 08 12:04 PM
Quote:I just wanted to comment on "no one I know breeds for average horses"I don't KNOW anyone breeding for average horses, but I have come across many posts on message boards where people claim to want to breed "horses for the common man, not for shows but for family horses and using"These posts are almost ALWAYS stock horse breeders. Different level of the horse world entirely than what has been discussed here...but many of these people proudly breed 7 or 8 foals a year...with the GOAL of being mediocre.Yikes!
Feb 9 08 12:05 PM
Quote:To me, that sounds so noble, yet it only justifies breeding mediocre horses. Why can't a quality horse be for "family and using"?
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Feb 9 08 12:59 PM
Quote:I've also heard of people who want to breed non-show horses who can instead be superior family horses. But I don't see this as breeding mediocre. Many show horses are actually inferior for what they are looking for. Just because it is not your preference does not make it inferior.
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Feb 9 08 1:11 PM
Quote:You are assuming that they are not quality horses. Many people feel that it is the show horses who are mediocre. Different strokes!
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Feb 9 08 1:36 PM
Quote:But you know exactly what I'm talking about cretin, you've been skulking around long enough.
Feb 9 08 1:48 PM
Quote:A craptacular "family" horse breeder-Has poorly conformed or lame breeding stock, from unknown lines. Animals might be purebred, but pedigrees have no focus...mishmash with no goal.-Advertises offspring as prospects for everything, but focuses on the "family" part.-Has little to no follow up on the products of their program, and is very vague about accomplishments. (oh yeah, we think they've got him undersaddle finally...)-Sells animals that are totally incapable of doing anything BUT being pets...through conformation, athleticism or attitude.
Feb 9 08 1:49 PM
Quote:Way to go, Sarcasta. I think the whole point of this entire 2,000 post thread is clear, although some would still insist on straying from the subject, which is QUALITY, as it pertains to breed improvement. The definition of quality is quite different to some, and that's perfectly fine. The evidence of responsible breeders and their quality breeding programs is there for all to see; the rest are found in cheap Saturday night auction barns and are on their way to Mexico.
Feb 9 08 2:07 PM
Quote:You could easily substitute "show" for "family".
Feb 9 08 2:19 PM
Quote:Of course you could. It's just that I, personally, haven't seen as many "show" barns that bother going to shows with absolute crap.
Quote:I haven't fixated on FQH, really, but the thread is about them so that's what I used in my examples. You can bet your butt that there are loads of crummy Arabian breeders too, and TB breeders...any popular breed is going to attract the good and the bad.If you missed the fact that everyone here advocates quality breeding in general, INCLUDING me, then you can't read. That the ONLY thing I advocate.
Quote:It just makes me extra mad when people try to sell crummy horses as "family" horses, because those are the horses that need to be of very HIGH quality...last through all the kids, be eminently trainable and patient, etc.
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