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Apr 21 11 5:17 AM
Callisto04 wrote:But, "a goose-rump is valuable in sports with rapid turns"Your quote "A horse that is goose-rumped does not have enough swing and power in the hindlegs and would not be suitable for speed and endurance events" is also in that wikipedia page. On top it says: This article needs additional citations for verification. LOL
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Apr 21 11 5:20 AM
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Apr 21 11 5:22 AM
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Apr 21 11 5:26 AM
Callisto04 wrote:http://imsonline.tamu.edu/Courses/Samples/334Equine/334Docs/8893BST.pdf he had what is called a “goose rump” --> talking about Secretariat in that article. So my conclusion is that a goose rumped horse can be fast LMAO
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Apr 21 11 5:29 AM
Apr 21 11 5:33 AM
forthefutureofthebreed wrote:Callisto04 wrote:http://imsonline.tamu.edu/Courses/Samples/334Equine/334Docs/8893BST.pdf he had what is called a “goose rump” --> talking about Secretariat in that article. So my conclusion is that a goose rumped horse can be fast LMAOWhich proves that a horse can deviate from perceived ideal and still be an exceptional performer and contributor to its breed.
Apr 21 11 5:34 AM
passing through wrote:Callisto04 wrote: http://imsonline.tamu.edu/Courses/Samples/334Equine/334Docs/8893BST.pdf he had what is called a “goose rump” --> talking about Secretariat in that article. So my conclusion is that a goose rumped horse can be fast LMAO
Callisto04 wrote: http://imsonline.tamu.edu/Courses/Samples/334Equine/334Docs/8893BST.pdf he had what is called a “goose rump” --> talking about Secretariat in that article. So my conclusion is that a goose rumped horse can be fast LMAO
Apr 21 11 5:41 AM
Apr 21 11 5:45 AM
I'm sure Secretariat was a slow legged animal. Besides goose rumped is good for events with rapid turns, like ... barrel racing LOL
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Apr 21 11 5:50 AM
forthefutureofthebreed wrote: Callisto04 wrote: http://imsonline.tamu.edu/Courses/Samples/334Equine/334Docs/8893BST.pdf he had what is called a “goose rump” --> talking about Secretariat in that article. So my conclusion is that a goose rumped horse can be fast LMAOWhich proves that a horse can deviate from perceived ideal and still be an exceptional performer and contributor to its breed.
Apr 21 11 5:51 AM
forthefutureofthebreed wrote:Secretariat was most assuredly a speed horse, who possessed the ability to carry that speed over a distance. In the 1973 Belmont Stakes, each quarter he ran was faster than the previous one, which was phenomenal. In 8 of Secretariat's races, he ran the first quarter in :22 and change. That is a speed horse by anyone's standards.
Apr 21 11 6:07 AM
bexs76446 wrote:forthefutureofthebreed wrote: Which proves that a horse can deviate from perceived ideal and still be an exceptional performer and contributor to its breed. A little bit unfair to use a photo of him already at stud and not set up properly and say that he deviates from the perceived ideal. Especially since he WAS the ideal for what TB's should be. You'll be hard pressed to find a TB person say he isn't what the ideal is.
forthefutureofthebreed wrote: Which proves that a horse can deviate from perceived ideal and still be an exceptional performer and contributor to its breed.
Apr 21 11 6:34 AM
forthefutureofthebreed wrote:bexs76446 wrote:forthefutureofthebreed wrote: Which proves that a horse can deviate from perceived ideal and still be an exceptional performer and contributor to its breed. A little bit unfair to use a photo of him already at stud and not set up properly and say that he deviates from the perceived ideal. Especially since he WAS the ideal for what TB's should be. You'll be hard pressed to find a TB person say he isn't what the ideal is.Perhaps you should pay closer attention to what I wrote and note that I used the word, 'perceived'. If this picture was posted on this forum and no one knew who he was, he'd be ripped to shreds. And you know it. Many here have that magical eye for judging the quality of a horse by photos alone, don't you know? It's all about "perception".
Apr 21 11 6:37 AM
forthefutureofthebreed wrote: bexs76446 wrote: forthefutureofthebreed wrote: Which proves that a horse can deviate from perceived ideal and still be an exceptional performer and contributor to its breed. A little bit unfair to use a photo of him already at stud and not set up properly and say that he deviates from the perceived ideal. Especially since he WAS the ideal for what TB's should be. You'll be hard pressed to find a TB person say he isn't what the ideal is.Perhaps you should pay closer attention to what I wrote and note that I used the word, 'perceived'. If this picture was posted on this forum and no one knew who he was, he'd be ripped to shreds. And you know it. Many here have that magical eye for judging the quality of a horse by photos alone, don't you know? It's all about "perception".
bexs76446 wrote: forthefutureofthebreed wrote: Which proves that a horse can deviate from perceived ideal and still be an exceptional performer and contributor to its breed. A little bit unfair to use a photo of him already at stud and not set up properly and say that he deviates from the perceived ideal. Especially since he WAS the ideal for what TB's should be. You'll be hard pressed to find a TB person say he isn't what the ideal is.
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Apr 21 11 6:47 AM
bexs76446 wrote:forthefutureofthebreed wrote: bexs76446 wrote: forthefutureofthebreed wrote: Which proves that a horse can deviate from perceived ideal and still be an exceptional performer and contributor to its breed. A little bit unfair to use a photo of him already at stud and not set up properly and say that he deviates from the perceived ideal. Especially since he WAS the ideal for what TB's should be. You'll be hard pressed to find a TB person say he isn't what the ideal is.Perhaps you should pay closer attention to what I wrote and note that I used the word, 'perceived'. If this picture was posted on this forum and no one knew who he was, he'd be ripped to shreds. And you know it. Many here have that magical eye for judging the quality of a horse by photos alone, don't you know? It's all about "perception". Perhaps you should pay closer attention to what I wrote and note that I said it's a bit unfair to use a poorly set up photo as representation to make your point and claim that it proves a deviation from the ideal- perceived or not. Especially when its been proven on here time and time again that a poorly set up photo can make a world of difference in how the horse is "perceived". Set him up properly and present that photo and I doubt you'd get much of a bash fest- Secretariat or not. http://www.nndb.com/people/212/000023143/
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Apr 21 11 6:57 AM
passing through wrote:HorseHawk wrote: And just what would Secetariat have been without his "large heart" gene...? Guess we all know though...as he wasn't considered a great sire of sires, or a sire of great race horses, but a broodmare sire ...HH Man O War was also known as a broodmare sire. It is an often held belief that the broodmares are the gold, as exemplified by the term "Blue Hen Mare." I am confused where you are going with this?
HorseHawk wrote: And just what would Secetariat have been without his "large heart" gene...? Guess we all know though...as he wasn't considered a great sire of sires, or a sire of great race horses, but a broodmare sire ...
Apr 21 11 6:59 AM
Apr 21 11 7:07 AM
HorseHawk wrote: passing through wrote: HorseHawk wrote: And just what would Secetariat have been without his "large heart" gene...? Guess we all know though...as he wasn't considered a great sire of sires, or a sire of great race horses, but a broodmare sire ...HH Man O War was also known as a broodmare sire. It is an often held belief that the broodmares are the gold, as exemplified by the term "Blue Hen Mare." I am confused where you are going with this? That's because Secretariat could not give his large heart to a son & only a daughter, & a dam can give it to a daughter or a son... Again, my point is...What kind(how fast) of a race horse would Secretariat have been without thew large heart/gene that gave him more wind/stamina than the others...?
passing through wrote: HorseHawk wrote: And just what would Secetariat have been without his "large heart" gene...? Guess we all know though...as he wasn't considered a great sire of sires, or a sire of great race horses, but a broodmare sire ...HH Man O War was also known as a broodmare sire. It is an often held belief that the broodmares are the gold, as exemplified by the term "Blue Hen Mare." I am confused where you are going with this?
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