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Jun 14 12 1:07 AM
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Jun 14 12 3:11 AM
Krisly7 wrote: Honestly, I dont care what people buy, but to me this is rude.Oreo - you have/had so many people rooting for you, how hard is it to say: Hey, thanks for trying to help me. I might found a great home for Jayne and Jazz is sold. I really like a good, young horse, with lots of possibilities. I can afford one horse easily. Could anybody look this horse up for me? She seems to be a good deal and lessons might be included.My point is that I think you own people a explanation, otherwise I doubt you will be taking seriously in the future.
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Jun 14 12 4:12 AM
ckayser wrote: Hect, drive up to DDR's and pester the hell out of him.
Hect, drive up to DDR's and pester the hell out of him.
goflipper said:Just come back in a few years and show what you've produced and what it's done. Until then no one knows shit, and it's just Backyard Breeders Gone Wild. The proof is in the results.
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Jun 14 12 4:38 AM
unkcommentator wrote:ckayser wrote: Hect, drive up to DDR's and pester the hell out of him. Heck, drive up to DDR's and become volunteer ranch help. Sign a release of liability and have him put you to work. Win win situation for both. He gets free labor, you get all the horsey time you want.
Jun 14 12 4:41 AM
justbloo wrote: great idea, except it's 6 hours each direction from oreo's to DDR's. I can't wrap my brain around the idea that "lessons on a young horse" benefit either the rider or the horse. Can a rider taking lessons teach the young horse what it needs to know when the rider doesn't know right from wrong to being with? This isn't the same as Puppy Training 101.
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Jun 14 12 6:32 AM
ddranch wrote:Through the years patterns emerged from the many clients that entered the gates of our place.My perfect boarder would more than likely be many of you as you are highly interested in horses from many aspects.You all love to talk about horses,groom,enjoy the outdoors,smell horses and get a good ride in from time to time.You look for knowledge and like lessons and even from time to time a clinic.Many just have to ride and some are happy to be in the environment.In actuality you represent a very small part of the boarding market in my opinion.Depending on the area of course but in our experience people get all excited about a horse and a new ranch and then over time disappear.The new excitement fades and the ranch is left to the real duties of the day in and day out care the the owner swore they would perform.The ranch gets use to every lamb excuse about how you had a wedding,birthday,dog shower,piano practice and extra hours at work.Resentment and guilt builds until it is permanently worn on the face of the occasional visitor that brings a host of family and friends along with them for support.A well rehearsed flow of praise for the ranch or staff flows as to how well their horse is cared for and as we listened to this we looked at each other and said "how would you know,we haven't seen you for 3 months".We always recommend that these people rent,lease or take some kind of lessons BUT it is ALL about ownership!Somehow by the occasional visits to the ranch the owner becomes an "intermediate rider" and where that certificate was awarded I have no idea.There is usually some kind of wreck or near wreck.The client informs the ranch that the horse is for sale for some god awful amount.A year later the horse is given away and the horse moves to another place or stays.We had one horse that had had 5 owners while it was at our place.Shortly after this we hear the the previous owner has a new horse and is at the boarding ranch across the valley.This is the MAJORITY of the market.
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Jun 14 12 6:41 AM
pentack wrote: Unbelievable.
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Jun 14 12 8:30 AM
ckayser wrote: Your not worthless and you have a lifetime in front of you. I know what its like to go without a horse, when its the only thing you want. But right now, with your situation, seriously you would be better off spending that money on lessons. I like you, I really do, and I try to be nice to you, even if I dont want to be. But, I am going to be really honest here. When you posted pictures of you riding Jayne, it was painful to see.Your saddle didn't fit you or the horse, it was tacked up incorrectly. Hell it wasnt even sitting straight on her back. Your riding was seriously lacking, you were holding the reins incorrectly, you stirups were the wrong length. I mean the only good things in your pictures were your smile and your fat shiny mare. 90% of the horses in the world would have dumped you or worse in that set up. I'm not saying that to be mean, hell, I do stuff wrong all time, all you have to do is look at my Help thread. Right now you really can't afford a horse, whats so wrong with taking some lessons and learning a little before you take that big commitment again? You get to have horsey time with out all the bills and worries that go with it. Build your horse knowledge while getting your life back in order. You have your memories, and those will be your guiding light in learning and wanting more. When the time is right and you have some more riding miles behind you... you will find the right horse for you.But right now today, its not that time. You got to get the rest of your life in order so that you will enjoy your next horse, as you both deserve. I know I have been there. I think right now your hurting badly. You've lost so much in such a short time. Your job, dogs, cats, horses and your sense of self worth. You've probably lost even more we don't know about. I can imagine how over whelming that is. How lonely that is. I'm sorry for what you are going through right now, but I can tell you it will get better with time.Give it time. Take a deep breath and find out where you can get some lessons and ride time. Maybe even find a rescue or something you can volunteer at.
Your not worthless and you have a lifetime in front of you. I know what its like to go without a horse, when its the only thing you want.
But right now, with your situation, seriously you would be better off spending that money on lessons. I like you, I really do, and I try to be nice to you, even if I dont want to be. But, I am going to be really honest here. When you posted pictures of you riding Jayne, it was painful to see.Your saddle didn't fit you or the horse, it was tacked up incorrectly. Hell it wasnt even sitting straight on her back. Your riding was seriously lacking, you were holding the reins incorrectly, you stirups were the wrong length. I mean the only good things in your pictures were your smile and your fat shiny mare. 90% of the horses in the world would have dumped you or worse in that set up. I'm not saying that to be mean, hell, I do stuff wrong all time, all you have to do is look at my Help thread.
Right now you really can't afford a horse, whats so wrong with taking some lessons and learning a little before you take that big commitment again? You get to have horsey time with out all the bills and worries that go with it. Build your horse knowledge while getting your life back in order.
You have your memories, and those will be your guiding light in learning and wanting more. When the time is right and you have some more riding miles behind you... you will find the right horse for you.But right now today, its not that time. You got to get the rest of your life in order so that you will enjoy your next horse, as you both deserve. I know I have been there. I think right now your hurting badly. You've lost so much in such a short time. Your job, dogs, cats, horses and your sense of self worth. You've probably lost even more we don't know about. I can imagine how over whelming that is. How lonely that is. I'm sorry for what you are going through right now, but I can tell you it will get better with time.Give it time.
Take a deep breath and find out where you can get some lessons and ride time. Maybe even find a rescue or something you can volunteer at.
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Jun 14 12 8:34 AM
I see what you did there TWO. LOLI didn't realise O was so far from DDR. SO that option is out. But trust me there are tons of horsey opportunities around you O.
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Jun 14 12 11:45 AM
ddranch wrote: Through the years patterns emerged from the many clients that entered the gates of our place.My perfect boarder would more than likely be many of you as you are highly interested in horses from many aspects.You all love to talk about horses,groom,enjoy the outdoors,smell horses and get a good ride in from time to time.You look for knowledge and like lessons and even from time to time a clinic.Many just have to ride and some are happy to be in the environment.In actuality you represent a very small part of the boarding market in my opinion.Depending on the area of course but in our experience people get all excited about a horse and a new ranch and then over time disappear.The new excitement fades and the ranch is left to the real duties of the day in and day out care the the owner swore they would perform.The ranch gets use to every lamb excuse about how you had a wedding,birthday,dog shower,piano practice and extra hours at work.Resentment and guilt builds until it is permanently worn on the face of the occasional visitor that brings a host of family and friends along with them for support.A well rehearsed flow of praise for the ranch or staff flows as to how well their horse is cared for and as we listened to this we looked at each other and said "how would you know,we haven't seen you for 3 months".We always recommend that these people rent,lease or take some kind of lessons BUT it is ALL about ownership!Somehow by the occasional visits to the ranch the owner becomes an "intermediate rider" and where that certificate was awarded I have no idea.There is usually some kind of wreck or near wreck.The client informs the ranch that the horse is for sale for some god awful amount.A year later the horse is given away and the horse moves to another place or stays.We had one horse that had had 5 owners while it was at our place.Shortly after this we hear the the previous owner has a new horse and is at the boarding ranch across the valley.This is the MAJORITY of the market.
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