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I doubt that Holden Caulfield ever inspired more than sullen cigarette smoking.
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Skcup wrote: I realized that my ethical compass actually pointed me towards eating locally and in season as much as possible.
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Falufa wrote:They're incredibly self-righteous about it and have ruined many family occasions with their stupid, hurtful comments. I have been told I will die of cancer since I eat red meat. Oh, okay, good to know, thanks.
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AppyButt wrote:Falufa wrote:They're incredibly self-righteous about it and have ruined many family occasions with their stupid, hurtful comments. I have been told I will die of cancer since I eat red meat. Oh, okay, good to know, thanks. I hate it when anyone does that, regardless of their beliefs and practices. It's arrogant, rude, and simply not how you treat other people. Even if you share my beliefs, I get mad if you're going to bash others over the head with them. It just makes people not like you and not want to listen to you. Ever. It's a dear price to pay for feeling superior.
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Falufa wrote:Oh this is a touchy subject for me. My brother and sister-in-law are Super Vegans. When they first started dating they were just vegetarian and much easier to tolerate. Over the years they've become more and more insufferable about it all. They're incredibly self-righteous about it and have ruined many family occasions with their stupid, hurtful comments. I have been told I will die of cancer since I eat red meat. Oh, okay, good to know, thanks. We took them to see the horse when we first got him, and they asked me how long he is "stuck in his *cage* every day" and if we honestly think he's happy. They look at us like we're disgusting for drinking milk because "it's for baby cows, not people" and they seriously won't even wear wool because "the sheep are so mistreated." To take things even further, when I threw my SIL her baby shower, I had to put a little note on the invite stating that all clothes bought for the baby had to be 100% Organic Cotton. People were calling me in a tizzy because that shit's EXPENSIVE. Then, my mother went out of her way to make crib sheets (for the crib that has been in the family for over 100 years) out of all organic fabrics and the baby napped in it maybe once or twice. Also, they live in a TINY 1 bedroom apartment with a 2 year old and another one is due in March. They pushed their full mattress up against my brother's very old (from when he was like, 12) twin mattress because they were too cheap to buy a Queen/King, and all three of them (soon to be four!) sleep together. OMG. A bit of a tirade, sorry. Then, on the other hand, I have a friend who has been a vegetarian since she was 10 or so and I always forget because she's so conservative about it. She doesn't shove it down anyone's throat or require the entire group eat at a specific restaurant for her one preference.
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roro wrote:If you said the difference between your home raised chickens and factory chickens was infinitesimal then you weren't helping your side of the argument at all. Here's my deal: you can eat meat if you want, and you should not bash vegans over the head with it. Vegans can not eat meat if they want, and they shouldn't bash you over the head with it. I take a similar approach with religious views. It sure as hell isn't the job of the person with another religion to make sure their religious beliefs make perfect sense to me. It just isn't, and I'm not going to get in a heated argument over it. A discussion, sure. But no trying to win either person over to the other side or prove someone wrong to the bone. Same with food, if their reason for being vegan is that they think using animals for food is wrong, that's alright with me, because it isn't fucking about convincing me. Personal morals often appear rather nonsensical and glossy to me, I don't see why food-related ones would be any different.
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